Individual tire pressure readings!

[HKF]

Something that I don’t think has been mentioned here is that the Integra seems to have individual tire pressure readings that can be called up in the dash! No Civic has that and competitors with it are hilariously over priced!

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[bullitt]

I guess it depends on what you call a competitor. The base 27K Mustang has that feature, has for years. I'm actually amazed the Civic doesn't have it. I figured it would have had it for like 5yrs by now.

 

[fenix-silver]

Which means that the Integra is going to be using traditional in-wheel TPMS sensors as opposed to the ABS rotational speed measurement that the Civic uses. Pros: more accurate and less false-positives that require recalibrating the TPMS system. Cons: need TPMS sensors for winter wheels or just deal with the TPMS warning.

 

[RRP RSX-S]

I guess it depends on what you call a competitor. The base 27K Mustang has that feature, has for years. I'm actually amazed the Civic doesn't have it. I figured it would have had it for like 5yrs by now.

Agreed. I thought individual TPMS was standard and required these days.

 

[KoukiVAB]

I think it’s a safety feature that every car should come with. The speed sensor really bothered me when I had my CTR.

 

[fenix-silver]

Agreed. I thought individual TPMS was standard and required these days.

In the US, some sort of TPMS system is required. It's the individual tire pressure monitoring that is not.

 

[Ethan]

The Mazda 3 actually has this standard.

 

[HKF]

The Mazda 3 actually has this standard.

Along with a tiny rear seat and poor visibility too!

 

[HKF]

Along with a tiny rear seat and poor visibility too!

How will the Integra ever hope to compete!?!

 

[bullitt]

How will the Integra ever hope to compete!?!

Along with a tiny rear seat and poor visibility too!

And 250HP turbo and AWD.

 

[HKF]

And 250HP turbo and AWD.

And torsion beam rear suspension!

 

[Hondabob]

And torsion beam rear suspension!

Which is perfectly acceptable, the only real let down on the Mazda on the suspension side is the tires they chose.

you don’t need to argue for the Integra in every way possible, while this is an Acura forum it doesn’t need to be a dictatorship.

there are some things the Integra has that others don’t (in Mazda case there is no ambient lighting, and very little lighting at all)

 

[KoukiVAB]

Which is perfectly acceptable, the only real let down on the Mazda on the suspension side is the tires they chose.

you don’t need to argue for the Integra in every way possible, while this is an Acura forum it doesn’t need to be a dictatorship.

there are some things the Integra has that others don’t (in Mazda case there is no ambient lighting, and very little lighting at all)

It's perfectly acceptable for a mainstream compact hatchback. However it's unacceptable for anything with a premium badge.
So it's the very first thing they need to take care of before actually becoming a 100% premium brand.

TPMS, on the other hand, is absolutely necessary.
There's nothing special about the Mazda 3 having it, and there's nothing special about the Integra having it.
The only reason it's worth mentioning is because Honda for some dumb reason doesn't put them in the Civic.

 

[bullitt]

It's perfectly acceptable for a mainstream compact hatchback. However it's unacceptable for anything with a premium badge.
So it's the very first thing they need to take care of before actually becoming a 100% premium brand.

TPMS, on the other hand, is absolutely necessary.
There's nothing special about the Mazda 3 having it, and there's nothing special about the Integra having it.
The only reason it's worth mentioning is because Honda for some dumb reason doesn't put them in the Civic.

They actually have a very long and detailed reason behind why they went with a torsion beam as it was the best way to get the predictable handling they wanted. If the goal was handling and not "omg soft ride" then the beam is perfectly fine than a needlessly complicated and costly system.

 

[KoukiVAB]

They actually have a very long and detailed reason behind why they went with a torsion beam as it was the best way to get the predictable handling they wanted. If the goal was handling and not "omg soft ride" then the beam is perfectly fine than a needlessly complicated and costly system.

I agree there's nothing wrong with it performance wise.
Hell, even the fastest FWD production vehicle on the Nurburgring has torsion beam.

What I'm saying is that the Mazda 3 shouldn't be considered premium just yet, especially with the torsion beam set up.

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