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The F87 and G87 are different cars. The G87 brings a level of composure, precision, and linearity of power delivery not present in the F87. I wouldn’t call it a muscle car, though it is quite powerful for its class. It is this new “composure” that some F87 vets are calling “lack of engagement”...

Nice - I'm sure we drove the same car. ;) The ITS really hit the nail on the head for anyone who wants a truly fun and serious driver's car and needs the practicality, but has a somewhat limited budget. Unfortunately, my use case doesn't call for anything more than 2 doors and good trunk space...

I definitely can see the ITS being the perfect "Goldilocks" choice for lots of people, especially with the CTR ADM situation. I'm here because the experience made an impression and I'm still very much interested. Agreed that the F87 appears to be casting a shadow over the G87. That shouldn't be...

Test drove the local ITS demo twice. The first drive was somewhat spirited. The second drive was far more intense; I pushed the car pretty hard. I performed both drives before reading or watching a single review, and my thoughts below represent my impressions at the time. First impressions...