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I see you’re spending some time considering the F80. Thought I’d chime in for a minute, since I owned a gorgeous 6MT F80, Laguna Seca blue over silverstone. Damn it was a good looking car. MPE was insane on cold starts. I would describe that car as pure theatre. Speed, noise, looks, pretty...

Hahahaha that’s amazing. One of my more frequently quoted movies. The slight ‘play’ in the shifter vs. the 718, as well as the better gearing, will have you shifting more often in the ITS. And you can use the change to grab a well preserved Miata or 986 to thrash around at topless motorsports...

If the ITS were auto only and had worse EPS, it wouldn’t be as good as an S3 or M240i. Fact. However the drivetrain (you know, the thing you interact with every second behind the wheel) actually makes it more desirable than many more expensive machines today. If this were 2010, and you could...

White!

Integra Type S + the best pre-EPS Porsche you can afford = hell yeah

I just finished spending a couple hours with the ITS. I’m taking mine home this Monday. My conclusion: 1. This car is a love letter to the manual transmission. The inputs are perfectly weighted and reward good manual driving. This is true at any speed. This platform was designed around the...

So basically….ITS + ND2 is the ultimate drivers daily 1-2 punch. I think it’s time for my first Miata.

A little off topic but have you driven an ND Miata? Wondering if clutch/gearbox combo is comparable to these Hondas.

Yup. Modern gearshifts are all fine. What’s lacking is clutch feel. And software interference between clutch and throttle is horrible. Cars like this are either boring or dangerous, depending on power and driven wheels.

When your ITS arrives, consider adding an older Porsche to the stable. If you like your 718, then something like a 996 or even 986 will be a revelation. My 718 GTS (I had the 2.5 and got rid of it quickly) was better on track, but my 993 (2S) was way, way better on the street. 996 has better...

Well said.

Actually it’s not a weekend toy. That would be the job for my 996 or one of my Mini’s. The point is that it’s what I’ve been looking for as a daily. A lot of ‘features’ and ‘materials’ in cars are over-analyzed and/or overrated. It’s a car, not a living room. It’s got more than enough features...

Isn’t it sad? If you asked me back in 2002 what I’d buy as my DD of I ever did well, Honda wouldn’t be on the list. BMW invented the segment, made me work hard to get there, then abandoned the segment!

This might sound a little nuts, but there’s nothing else out there at any price that I want as my personal daily driver. I’m not comparing spec to spec…I just want it. I think the ITS looks better than the CTR and I’m willing to trade seats for a sound system. I just want a car like this. In...

How does anything “in a segment of one” not have a value proposition? For those that couldn’t get a CTR at MSRP, this is a lot cheaper. Hopefully this proves to other manufacturers that there is a market for this sort of thing. More choice and better ‘value’ then.

That’s a really good point.

Comparing manual G80 to CTR, the M3 is not above it in any fun to drive category, at least not on the street. -The shifter feel is actually fine in the G80, it’s the clutch take up which is very bad. CTR is progressive. -BMW eps is terrible. Their idea of ‘feel’ is a combination of heft, and...

You’ll have fun with the M3 CS. It’s a neat car, especially if you get green. I had an M2 CS…and sold it very quickly because it made me want to grab the keys to my 996 or 993. Your G80 won’t even be in the ballpark of the E46 in the fun department, but that’s the world we live in. If it fills...

I literally turned down an M3 CS allocation because I’d rather have a base manual Integra until my Type S arrives. CS magic is overrated. G80 isn’t very fun overall. Clutch take up is terrible on a base G80 and the AWD competition is numb with too much power. I still have M760li to serve that...

I mentioned this in another thread- CTR and ITS buyer demographics will sometimes skew much wealthier than your typical $50k sporty car buyer. Because cars today are so blah and numb. EPS is mostly terrible, and even most manuals just don’t feel right. I’m not even a fan of the ‘bolt action’...