iForce max (hybrid) vs iForce (non hybrid), pros and cons listed

[anorphirith]

Pros and cons of each setup, let me know what I missed

iForce pros (non hybrid):

1. lighter vehicle -375lbs
2. slightly faster acceleration
3. more cargo capacity +7.6cu/ft
4. less complex
5. cheaper starting msrp
6. no hybrid components, easier access to the engine components
7. better highway MPG
8. No need to swap the NiMH battery when it dies

iForce cons (non hybrid):

1. more stress on the newly designed turbo engine
2. potentially less durable since there's more stress on the turbo
3. more emissions
4. less power
5. lower power AC outlet 400w
6. less torque for 4Lo off-roading

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iForce max pros (hybrid):

1. less emissions
2. more power
3. less stress on the turbo
4. better city MPG
5. higher power AC outlet 2400w
6. more torque for 4Lo off-roading

iForce max cons (hybrid):

1. less cargo capacity -7.6cu/ft
2. slightly slower acceleration
3. more complex
4. heavier vehicle +375lbs
5. more expensive msrp
6. harder to access engine components for maintenance
7. worse highway mpg
8. NiMH battery will need to be swapped when it dies

(towing capacity for the TRD off road MAX and regular is actually the same, both rated at 6000lbs)

 

[MikeLSV]

Add'l pro? After putting a hundred miles on a iForce Max ORP I would say the hybrid might have more dampened ride quality - 'weightier' / seems more planted. Given the added battery weight in the back perhaps better balanced?

Confirmed con. Definitely a big change in carrying capacity in trunk. I know I can work around it - but no comparison to the iForce trunk in person.

Have not gone off-road yet to check out those pros/cons.

 

[LLL1990]

more stress on the newly designed turbo engine

This engine is new to the 4Runner but it's not a new engine. It's now in its 4th year of production and is used in the Lexus NX, RX and TX, Toyota Highlander, Crown, Land Cruiser and Tacoma. By now there are hundreds of thousands of these engines in use and so far there are no problem areas.

 

[anorphirith]

This engine is new to the 4Runner but it's not a new engine. It's now in its 4th year of production and is used in the Lexus NX, RX and TX, Toyota Highlander, Crown, Land Cruiser and Tacoma. By now there are hundreds of thousands of these engines in use and so far there are no problem areas.

I’m sure there’s no inherent issues with the turbo engine

 

[balong48]

This engine is new to the 4Runner but it's not a new engine. It's now in its 4th year of production and is used in the Lexus NX, RX and TX, Toyota Highlander, Crown, Land Cruiser and Tacoma. By now there are hundreds of thousands of these engines in use and so far there are no problem areas.

Yeah Toyota can’t afford to screw up the this engine (T24A-FTS), it’s in too many products. The V35A-FTS (Turbo V6) in the Tundra, Sequoia, GX, LX, etc isn’t produced in the same capacity - I feel they’re not as worried about it, given the lingering issues with it. They can sorta afford to screw that one up.