Flared Fenders?

[RUNN1N]

Why wouldn't they use the same mold as the CTR? Yes, I know the CTR is made in Japan.

Well I know for sure they aren't doing that--the whole back quarter of the CTR is wider whereas the Type S has what looks like more of a standard Integra back quarter with a very pronounced flare. The CTR flare is probably just as big, but it's more subtle... if that makes any sense.

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[Understeer]

Why wouldn't they use the same mold as the CTR? Yes, I know the CTR is made in Japan.

because they have completely different sheet metal. only thing CTR and regular civic shares is the roof, front door and hatch. Rear doors and rear fenders are bespoke. It costs signifcantly more to make new sheet metal.

 

[ijm5012]

How much do stamping dies cost?

They’re having to make new injection molding tools for the front and rear fascia, and those are easily over a million dollars each.

 

[VtecBuddy]

Why wouldn't they use the same mold as the CTR? Yes, I know the CTR is made in Japan.

Door design is different from the FL5. An FL5 door would not fit on the Integra. And if it did it would not line up correctly.

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I think several are suggesting that the door and fender feature an add-on (stick-on) flare and that the vinyl wrap is hiding the creases.
I personally believe this is more likely than the alternative.

I’m not sure if anyone is suggesting an add-on flare for the door with a molded fender but, that would be okay too.

Mike

From what I’m seeing in the preview images, I think front flare is integrated (Front fenders are usually plastic so it’s easy to design a new one). Door flare is stuck on because door skins are aluminum. Rear quarter panel flare is stuck on (rear quarter panel is usually aluminum and attached to the frame). The portion of the flares on front and rear bumpers are integrated because once again it’s plastic and easy to design a new one.

 

[RUNN1N]

^^ Ok this checks out.

According to someone who has worked in die making, the lines appear to be too sharp for a die to have made them in the door stamping process. “They may not be plastic add-ons, they might be aluminum, but they’ll be add -ons for the door and quarter panel, integrated in the plastic bumper.”

 

[VtecBuddy]

^^ Ok this checks out.

According to someone who has worked in die making, the lines appear to be too sharp for a die to have made them in the door stamping process. “They may not be plastic add-ons, they might be aluminum, but they’ll be add -ons for the door and quarter panel, integrated in the plastic bumper.”

Yep, the add-ons could still be aluminum, but I don't really see the point of making them aluminum over plastic since they won't be structural in any way.

 

[VtecBuddy]

How much do stamping dies cost?

They’re having to make new injection molding tools for the front and rear fascia, and those are easily over a million dollars each.

I bet changing the door skin probably also changes a lot of mounting points and seals inside the door for different parts, so it might be a more involved change than just updating the stamping die for the outer skin of the door itself. It might also change how the door crumples and could require more crash testing? Not sure about that second part, just a hunch.

 

[dadcab]

The front fenders are flared out and the rear has plastic molding.

 

[RUNN1N]

Confirmed--the rear fender flares are add-ons.

 

[Understeer]

Confirmed--the rear fender flares are add-ons.

it would have cost significantly more for those stampings. One of the reason I believe this car will cost pretty close to the Type R, those bespoke body panels are so expensive to produce in limited numbers. Its part of the reason the price jumped signficantly from the FK8. Suprised the front fender isn't a bolt on either, was sure it was going to be.

 

[Sphinx]

^^ Ok this checks out.

According to someone who has worked in die making, the lines appear to be too sharp for a die to have made them in the door stamping process. “They may not be plastic add-ons, they might be aluminum, but they’ll be add -ons for the door and quarter panel, integrated in the plastic bumper.”

And that's the real issue - the stamping molds that they'd have to have to make the same rears haunches would be expensive to have on two continents. I bet all front fenders and front doors are stamped at the same factory and then shipped to the other place for fitment and installation. Those are a lot cheaper to ship than the rear quarters, I think.

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