Introducing the 2024 Acura Integra Type S! On Sale in June

[Understeer]

Btw, I’m hoping the ITS’s stick shift and clutch are the same as in the CTR, the regular Integra and Si set is good on those but not quite as good as the CTR

they share pretty much all parts underneath the skin.

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[ijm5012]

The front the the N looks better.. still not a hatch. Still has Zoro marks on the side
https://www.autoblog.com/2023/04/18/hyundai-shows-2024-elanta-n-at-auto-shanghai/

It’s also still a Hyundai with a Theta II engine in it, which is reason enough for me to stay away, regardless of what Hyundai says.

Hyundai needs to move to using the new 2.5T SmartStream engine. More power, more torque, and seemingly better reliability. My wife’s Santa Fe has the Turbo 2.5 in it. It’s a torquey engine that delivers surprisingly good fuel economy

 

[radius]

And yet they’re the only channel I’ve come across that will out cars on a lift and talk about the engineering of the car, suspension geometry, differentials, etc.

Sarah-n-Tuned is pretty good for the mechanical, "on-the-lift" aspects too.

But where Savagegeese has her beat is their ability (and willingness) to do long, in-depth interviews with engineering and design staff. Most other reviewers aren't willing to show this kind of background info and maybe don't have the access to do the interviews.

And of course, Mark is likely a better, more experience track driver too. As just a regular driver myself, I'm not sure which perspective I value more there.

 

[Understeer]

you get so much for your money with the Elantra N and its 90% what the Type R is but you get what you pay for... the build quality is pretty lacking

 

[NeoDiNardo]

I’ll tell you, I can’t wait for the ITS’s extra 120HP, as I’m so used to and tired of turning from a stop light/hitting 25mph mid turn/and then shifting mid turn in my slower Interga.

 

[js4square]

you get so much for your money with the Elantra N and its 90% what the Type R is but you get what you pay for... the build quality is pretty lacking

Amazing what you get for that price. Not my cup of tea design wise (way too busy like most Hyundai) and would probably only lease because of reliability concerns, but it’s still a steal IMO…

 

[ijm5012]

you get so much for your money with the Elantra N and its 90% what the Type R is but you get what you pay for... the build quality is pretty lacking

Hyundai has always had the value proposition over their Japanese counterparts.

Their technology is fantastic on modern cars (the semi-autonomous driving aids in my wife’s loaded Santa Fe are seriously impressive, I’d argue best in class).

Where you take a roll of the dice with Hyundai is the mechanical reliability of them. Everybody knows about the Theta II engine fiasco. Our Santa Fe uses the new 2.5T engine, which is great, but we had a recall because the DCT transmission could randomly fail at any time, leaving you stranded (bad solder connection on a PCB, Hyundai will only replace the transmission if it fails). We also had a recall for a potential turbo oil inlet leak (fire hazard), leaky ABS module (fire hazard), and rear trailer harness (fire hazard).

Fortunately the vehicle has been trouble free for us for the ~16k mikes we’ve had it, but if I had to do it over again, I likely wouldn’t look at a Hyundai/Kia/Genesis product.

 

[Integra23]

Hyundai has always had the value proposition over their Japanese counterparts.

Their technology is fantastic on modern cars (the semi-autonomous driving aids in my wife’s loaded Santa Fe are seriously impressive, I’d argue best in class).

Where you take a roll of the dice with Hyundai is the mechanical reliability of them. Everybody knows about the Theta II engine fiasco. Our Santa Fe uses the new 2.5T engine, which is great, but we had a recall because the DCT transmission could randomly fail at any time, leaving you stranded (bad solder connection on a PCB, Hyundai will only replace the transmission if it fails). We also had a recall for a potential turbo oil inlet leak (fire hazard), leaky ABS module (fire hazard), and rear trailer harness (fire hazard).

Fortunately the vehicle has been trouble free for us for the ~16k mikes we’ve had it, but if I had to do it over again, I likely wouldn’t look at a Hyundai/Kia/Genesis product.

Oof. Hopefully you don't have any issues. How's the dealership service experience I heard it's not good.

 

[Understeer]

I think most big brands make fairly reliable cars. My GTI has nearly 30k miles on it, its been mostly trouble free other than a door wire harness that was covered under warranty. My gripe of the Elantra is is just the flimsy parts that either break or doesn't fit correctly. I just don't see that car not turning in to a rattle can by 50k miles.

 

[Integra23]

I think most big brands make fairly reliable cars. My GTI has nearly 30k miles on it, its been mostly trouble free other than a door wire harness that was covered under warranty. My gripe of the Elantra is is just the flimsy parts that either break or doesn't fit correctly. I just don't see that car not turning in to a rattle can by 50k miles.

True. I know I saw a review mentioning when they hit a bump it sounded like the engine was going to fall out of the car.

 

[Understeer]

True. I know I saw a review mentioning when they hit a bump it sounded like the engine was going to fall out of the car.

I think it would make a great lease. Drive the shit out of it and return it.

 

[js4square]

I think it would make a great lease. Drive the shit out of it and return it.

My point exactly !

 

[ijm5012]

Oof. Hopefully you don't have any issues. How's the dealership service experience I heard it's not good.

I have to call about a month in advance to ensure I can be booked for service. If you have an emergency come up where you need to get the car looked at right away, good luck. Many dealers are so swamped that they can’t look at your car for days, which means no loaner until they can look at your car and confirm there is warranty work that is needed.

The one time I needed a loaner while our fully loaded midsize SUV was in for some of the recall checks and routine maintenance, my loaner was a base model sub-compact car.

 

[NeoDiNardo]

you get so much for your money with the Elantra N and its 90% what the Type R is but you get what you pay for... the build quality is pretty lacking

90% of the Type R’s performance, 50% of the Type R’s reliability, and 40% of the Type R’s resale value. JK, mostly, I don’t know the exact numbers.

 

[Frosty_DE5]

Just got an update from my dealer and they are saying the initial color options are as follows:

Tiger Eye Pearl/Ebony (50)
Liquid Carbon Metallic/Red (50)
Apex Blue Pearl/Orchid (50)
Majestic Black Pearl/Ebony (50)

Can anybody else confirm?

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