Rdrcr
Senior Member
Historically, yes.Respectfully disagree.
The GTI is a historic driver’s car, without which we wouldn’t have the civic type r, integra type r or now the Integra type s.
You’re saying taking that car and adding power and an awd system somehow makes it not a driver’s car? That seems like some arbitrary gatekeeping to me. The only people buying Golf Rs are enthusiasts - that is, drivers.
I can totally agree that by all accounts the Type S has better inputs and feedback, but I’d stop short of disqualifying the Golf R altogether. I think we’re lucky both of these exist in a market jam-packed with CUVs and in light of the EV takeover.
But, for the modern examples, I would define them as 'enthusiasts' cars more than 'drivers' cars.
I've owned a 2002 GTI 337, 2004 R32, and 2008 R32 for reference.
The GTI 337 was my favorite of the bunch....though, I loved the sound of the R32's.
Mike
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