Rear seat swap between A-Spec and Type-S?

[Integra23]

I can just imagine the salesman trying to sell a 4 seater aspec now like this is a special edition. And so forth and the customer will never know

Lol. It was for sale online for a month or so. I wonder if they took it to auction.
If you see an Aspec with the red trim on dash up front and it's 4 seater I'd snag it

Oh wow. Vroom is no more.

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[nix6speed]

I live ~10 min from Texas Direct Auto which was Vroom's only retail dealer in the US. Sold them my Frontier before buying ITS in August as they had the highest offer over Carvana, Carmax, givemthevin, and Nissan dealer across the street. Their sales price on it was less than I sold it to them for in 2-3 weeks time and finally went to auction when they dissolved. I think this was a common theme and likely why they went belly up. Carvana was having same issue and would be surprised if they stick around long term.

 

[Integra23]

I live ~10 min from Texas Direct Auto which was Vroom's only retail dealer in the US. Sold them my Frontier before buying ITS in August as they had the highest offer over Carvana, Carmax, givemthevin, and Nissan dealer across the street. Their sales price on it was less than I sold it to them for in 2-3 weeks time and finally went to auction when they dissolved. I think this was a common theme and likely why they went belly up. Carvana was having same issue and would be surprised if they stick around long term.

Yep. I priced everyone and Vroom was the highest. They listed my car for more then new and lowered it after a month or so to what they gave me. Not sure if they sold it or it went to auction.

 

[bandit81]

I am looking at doing this swap. With a black interior ITS backseat, I will be giving up the red stitch. This seems like a small price to pay to have the middle arm wrest. I am not sure I would ever use the middle seat. I will weigh the seat difference as I am curious to know how much weight savings there was with this swap, or if it was to help with the passenger total weight limit.

 

[Integra23]

I am looking at doing this swap. With a black interior ITS backseat, I will be giving up the red stitch. This seems like a small price to pay to have the middle arm wrest. I am not sure I would ever use the middle seat. I will weigh the seat difference as I am curious to know how much weight savings there was with this swap, or if it was to help with the passenger total weight limit.

Pretty sure it's just the vehicle load capacity reduction.

 

[bandit81]

There is a weight savings. The right and center rear seat back with the built-in middle seat belt is heavy, close to 30 lbs. If the non seat-belt Type-S version is like the left seat back, I am guessing there is a savings of about 20 lbs. Adding a BMW 18" spare is about 28-30 lbs, when you start adding this stuff up we're literally going to take away a tenth or 2-tenths of a second. Maybe Honda/Acura had this right.

 

[Compromise]

I’ve had a few people message me about parts and install. You likely didn’t know at the time but just thought I’d point it out for people who plan to do this in the future.

the most cost effective way of doing the swap is to purchase only the seat bench and the 60% seat back components. The seatbelt is embedded within the 60% seats. You need only purchase a new center seatbelt buckle and then plug it into the correct sensor wires.

in my guide I didn’t touch the 40% portion at all and left it in place. No color match issues.

hopefully this will save everyone some money if buying the parts separately and building at home. Assembly of parts and installation is very simple to do. Please contact me for any questions

Just to confirm for a future install.. what's needed from A spec:
1. 60% seat (with the arm rest)
2. Bottom cushion
3. Center Double Rear Seatbelt Buckles

That's all? Just wanted to double check. Thanks

 

[Integra23]

Just to confirm for a future install.. what's needed from A spec:
1. 60% seat (with the arm rest)
2. Bottom cushion
3. Center Double Rear Seatbelt Buckles

That's all? Just wanted to double check. Thanks

Yep that's all you need.

 

[Compromise]

Yep that's all you need.

Actually seems like a lot more pieces are required as seen on @kdevane 's invoice.

Right side is the pieces needed for arm-rest, while the left side seems to have no arm-rest.
According to @Azkyrie6 , the seatbelt is embedded in the no arm-rest 60% seat back; is it also included in the arm-rest version?

 

[Integra23]

Actually seems like a lot more pieces are required as seen on @kdevane 's invoice.

Right side is the pieces needed for arm-rest, while the left side seems to have no arm-rest.
According to @Azkyrie6 , the seatbelt is embedded in the no arm-rest 60% seat back; is it also included in the arm-rest version?

Oh. Your buying all new? I swapped both sides and cushion from an aspec
Refer to dream shop for all part numbers. https://dreamshop.honda.com/s/

But everything is separate, pad, covers, seatbelt , armrest etc.

 

[bandit81]

I bought a used set of black a-spec rear seats on eBay this summer. Doing this I got all the little pieces shown above. What it did not include is the center seat belt receiver, guessing the junk yard that pulled it didn't think to include that with the seats. The part number is 04823-3S5-A01ZA, it is the right and center belt buckle receiver. The only problem with the rear seats I picked up is they have the white stitch with the black, which looks weird with the rest of the interior being black with red. Red seats use the same stitch across all models, technically the right rear seat back in red is the same part number for all base, a-spec and type-s. I assume the white orchid seats are the same story. They obviously didn't want the white stitch with black for the Type-S since the front seats have the red stitch and insert. The black rear seats int he Type-S have a red stitch. They are spending a lot of money to make these variations, they would have saved a lot of money to just use black seats with black stitch and required all 3 models to have the same armrest.

I have not made the swap, may do it this spring. Not sure I haven't had the need for the 5th seat yet and I like not having that middle head rest in the rear view.

BTW the Honda Civic rear center and right seat belt receivers is part number 04823-T49-A00ZA. I have compared photos and they look similar, same harness plug, mounting tabs, etc.. EXCEPT the style of the actual receiver red button is different. They may work but if you want everything to match you want the Acura version. In a Type-S (mentioned earlier in this thread) the seat belt wiring for the center belt will not activate in the dash like the left and right rear seats.

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