Possibly Trading In For Integra Type-S

[optronix]

The ITS is a driver's car. If you like the holistic experience of driving, the ITS is an infinitely better car.

If you like smashing the go pedal and making lots of noise and tire smoke, you're better off sticking with the Dodge.

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[nawfoo]

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[SUSP3CT]

Wow. I wasn't expecting all those replies. I wanted to thank you all for your input.

More about my situation. I live in Ontario Canada, so I only drive my "fun" car 5-6 months and it's stored the rest of the year. I already have a daily driver (Subaru CrossTrek). I only put 1500 miles on my Scat Pack last year and do plan on putting more this year. I slaved away renovating my garage last summer and missed quality time in the car.

I was about to pull the trigger. Like almost there. And then I went in my garage with a cup of coffee and looked at the Scat Pack... And I'm still too emotionally attached to it. Heck I barely just broke in the damn thing. The cold starts... The V8 rumble... The PRESENCE of the car. Those are things I would not have in the ITS. And I absolutely agree the latter is a better driver car, it handles like a charm, it's fun. It serves a different purpose. I had real fun 4 bangers like the Cobalt SS Turbo (modified to make it real scary) and a Subaru BRZ (stock but amazing track car) but I always came back to V8s (Camaro Z28, G8 GT, GTO and now Scat).

Plus mine is real nice. It's the knuckle white, widebody, red seats, manual transmission, HK sound system, Carbon Fiber interior... Like it's nice, real nice.

I'm gonna buy an extension for my quick jack and start working on it myself. I think that's what I missed most.

You guys are amazing. I hope you all enjoy your cars, the ITS is a wonderful machine, it's just not for me at this stage. If I had the means to have a second fun car, it's the one I would buy.

Thank you all

 

[RMA]

I actually tried it in a new 25 Sportage & the V1 lit up like a Christmas tree, maybe your right I should use a differnt cable ...

 

[egxflash]

Wow. I wasn't expecting all those replies. I wanted to thank you all for your input.

More about my situation. I live in Ontario Canada, so I only drive my "fun" car 5-6 months and it's stored the rest of the year. I already have a daily driver (Subaru CrossTrek). I only put 1500 miles on my Scat Pack last year and do plan on putting more this year. I slaved away renovating my garage last summer and missed quality time in the car.

I was about to pull the trigger. Like almost there. And then I went in my garage with a cup of coffee and looked at the Scat Pack... And I'm still too emotionally attached to it. Heck I barely just broke in the damn thing. The cold starts... The V8 rumble... The PRESENCE of the car. Those are things I would not have in the ITS. And I absolutely agree the latter is a better driver car, it handles like a charm, it's fun. It serves a different purpose. I had real fun 4 bangers like the Cobalt SS Turbo (modified to make it real scary) and a Subaru BRZ (stock but amazing track car) but I always came back to V8s (Camaro Z28, G8 GT, GTO and now Scat).

Plus mine is real nice. It's the knuckle white, widebody, red seats, manual transmission, HK sound system, Carbon Fiber interior... Like it's nice, real nice.

I'm gonna buy an extension for my quick jack and start working on it myself. I think that's what I missed most.

You guys are amazing. I hope you all enjoy your cars, the ITS is a wonderful machine, it's just not for me at this stage. If I had the means to have a second fun car, it's the one I would buy.

Thank you all

The heart wants what the heart wants. You came to an ITS forum so you'll get a lot of people who will sing praises for the DE5 (and on some levels, rightfully so) but it certainly isn't god's gift to man like it sounds like it in here sometimes.

It sounds like the Scatpack is more your jam right now and there's nothing wrong with that. Both offer different kinds of fun.

 

[Frenzal]

Sell the CrossTrek and buy the ITS! Best of both worlds!

 

[SUSP3CT]

Sell the CrossTrek and buy the ITS! Best of both worlds!

Would be an absolutely sin to drive an ITS in the winter with all the salt we have here.

 

[SilverRocket]

Would be an absolutely sin to drive an ITS in the winter with all the salt we have here.

I totally agree, I store my ITS for the winter and drive a Civic Si through winter, so it literally has nothing to do with FWD +snow, but both Frenzal and I are approximately 600kms north east of you and he winters drives his, so opinions differ.

All I know is I just had to get my exhaust repaired on the Si because the car self modded a straight pipe setup thanks to the salt and I didn't want the same for the ITS.

 

[Frenzal]

A car is meant to drive. I drive mine in the winter (Montreal).

The ITS is not a 200k$ car!

But to each is own!

 

[optronix]

A car is meant to drive. I drive mine in the winter (Montreal).

The ITS is not a 200k$ car!

But to each is own!

Exactly.

If you're going to get a "fun car" to only drive a few months out of the year, there are plenty of options with 2 doors that are a better fit for that.

 

[SUSP3CT]

Exactly.

If you're going to get a "fun car" to only drive a few months out of the year, there are plenty of options with 2 doors that are a better fit for that.

The ITS is a nice car. They only made 3600 of em last year. I'd buy a shitbox for winter. No need to ruin it with salt, rust, and the dirty rustproofing process. Tons of better choices for a winter car as well. I'd steer clear from a sports car that has been winter driven in the used market. I'm particular.

 

[SilverRocket]

3 major things to consider if contemplating driving your ITS in the Rust Belt.

1) That a winter driven car will not last the same amount of time as a summer only car.

Hondas seem to start to rust at year 10 and hit the lower bound of the exponential rust progression at about year 13. This is coming from two first hand experiences, both bought new off the lot. I park the ITS for 4 months out of the year, meaning for every 3 full years I drive the car, a winter driven car will have 4 year of drive time. Long term, when the winter driven cars are rotted out thanks to rust, the "lost" years will easily be recouped as the car should last into its 20's.

2) Eventually when it does rust out, will there be anything worth buying?

If I could guarantee there would be a relatively lightweight, manual, combustion engine car available for purchase in 2035-2040, I'd gladly drive the ITS year round but sadly the trend is that by that time we'll be driving 5000+ pound, electric bricks with amazing performance but zero soul, that's if we're even driving in the first place and not mostly relying on auto pilot.

3) That the car will age as gracefully.

Cold starts, road grime , potholes, stone chips, snow brushes....... the average summer driven car will still degrade but not nearly as fast as one living through repeated harsh winters. Sure you could always swap out parts for new ones but at a decent expense versus putting the abuse on another forgettable vehicle.


I write this not to pick on anyone specific, but knowing a lot of potential ITS buyers could possibly read through this thread and I thought I'd give them some perspective that lead me to my decision.

It might not be an expensive car, but to the few who appreciate the formula, I don't expect another crack at it. I wonder how many regret not taking better care of their golden era, late 90's JDM icons because it was "just a car" only to look back and regret it.

Like a '94 Supra, a '97 RX-7 or even the OG 2001 Integra Type-R, moderately special but obtainable cars only obtain their true prestige once they're gone. Not having a crystal ball of the future, but seeing the writing on the wall, I really think the early 2020's are going to be the sweetheart period with incoming regulations that will further make cars boring to drive.

 

[SUSP3CT]

3 major things to consider if contemplating driving your ITS in the Rust Belt.

1) That a winter driven car will not last the same amount of time as a summer only car.

Hondas seem to start to rust at year 10 and hit the lower bound of the exponential rust progression at about year 13. This is coming from two first hand experiences, both bought new off the lot. I park the ITS for 4 months out of the year, meaning for every 3 full years I drive the car, a winter driven car will have 4 year of drive time. Long term, when the winter driven cars are rotted out thanks to rust, the "lost" years will easily be recouped as the car should last into its 20's.

2) Eventually when it does rust out, will there be anything worth buying?

If I could guarantee there would be a relatively lightweight, manual, combustion engine car available for purchase in 2035-2040, I'd gladly drive the ITS year round but sadly the trend is that by that time we'll be driving 5000+ pound, electric bricks with amazing performance but zero soul, that's if we're even driving in the first place and not mostly relying on auto pilot.

3) That the car will age as gracefully.

Cold starts, road grime , potholes, stone chips, snow brushes....... the average summer driven car will still degrade but not nearly as fast as one living through repeated harsh winters. Sure you could always swap out parts for new ones but at a decent expense versus putting the abuse on another forgettable vehicle.


I write this not to pick on anyone specific, but knowing a lot of potential ITS buyers could possibly read through this thread and I thought I'd give them some perspective that lead me to my decision.

It might not be an expensive car, but to the few who appreciate the formula, I don't expect another crack at it. I wonder how many regret not taking better care of their golden era, late 90's JDM icons because it was "just a car" only to look back and regret it.

Like a '94 Supra, a '97 RX-7 or even the OG 2001 Integra Type-R, moderately special but obtainable cars only obtain their true prestige once they're gone. Not having a crystal ball of the future, but seeing the writing on the wall, I really think the early 2020's are going to be the sweetheart period with incoming regulations that will further make cars boring to drive.

This was like reading poetry. Brilliant.

 

[whtciv2k]

I’m fortunate to be able to own more than a couple cars. I bought the ITS to fill a gap and not replace any of them. The ITS is an awesome car and I love mine dearly, but I will never sell my NA v8 car unless I replace it with another v8.

 

[Frenzal]

I keep my cars for about 20 years, and drive them in the winter. I was able to sell my 05 Accord 6-6 for 6k $ after 19 years of driving it year round. There was minimal rust on it (2 small spots). The key is to rust proof it in the rust belt.

Honestly, when the ITS is 20 years old and has around 300k km, I'll just buy another car and move on. If I can still get a couple of grands for it, fine. If not, I won't loose that much money...

But again, to each is own.

I don't drive my S2000 in the winter. That would be a really bad winter car!

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