Will camber kits required with Eibach Pro Kit

[jdm_94]

Got my lowering springs (Eibach Pro kit installed) and not happy at all with the alignment specs. Why so difference at front, did I do something wrong during the installation!!???
Anyone with anything similar.

best camber kit to use?

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[FloArm]

Did you accidentally pull the pin on one of the struts? I don’t think you can get beyond 2 degrees with a lowering kit without doing that, but I might be wrong.

 

[SKINNIE]

Got my lowering springs (Eibach Pro kit installed) and not happy at all with the alignment specs. Why so difference at front, did I do something wrong during the installation!!???
Anyone with anything similar.

best camber kit to use?

Did they even adjust camber? Before and after looks damn near the same lol

 

[StingertimeNC]

If they didn't pull the pins up front, I would have them pull them and see if they can get you more in the -2 range on both sides front. Rear is what it is. However, -2 all around is pretty normal. Not quite spec, but not wildly out either. You'll get a little bit more inside tire wear, but not horrible. I've run lowering springs on all my cars without major wear issues. Reduced tire life by a little, but you have to pay to play. Or get aftermarket parts to get back to OEM.

 

[Tw1stedlog1k]

You're fine as long as the toe and caster are in spec. Your camber isn't terrible in fact I feel -2.3 to -2.5 is more optimal for street use.

 

[MERAKIAUTOWORKS]

We pull the pins in front and for the rear camber we get SPC or Eibach camber arms. Got both in stock.

-Josh

 

[optronix]

Did they even adjust camber? Before and after looks damn near the same lol

You can't adjust camber from the factory, front or rear.

The "pull the pins" trick is a hack, not a legit adjustment method, and it only applies to the front.

We pull the pins in front and for the rear camber we get SPC or Eibach camber arms. Got both in stock.

-Josh

This doesn't really make sense. I think the best "easy fix" for springs alone is pull the pins in the front, leave the rear alone. That should theoretically put camber all around somewhat even after a springs install. Pulling pins and installing rear camber arms just gives more camber up front. Could be worse, but I just don't know why one would do that, unless you just feel like installing extra parts just because...

NOT pulling pins but installing rear camber arms would bring this back roughly to OEM specs. Which, apparently OEM specs can be as much as -2.3 degrees in the front according to this alignment printout.

In any case, none of it really makes THAT much of a difference, unless you're like me and sort of care about how the car carries itself around an autocross course. I noticed a substantial amount of new understeer after the springs install. I did not pull any pins, and installed the Eibach Prokit alone. But as far as tire wear, -2, -2.5 isn't really enough to worry too much about for most people.

I'll be revisiting my camber situation in the spring, still not sure exactly what I'll do but leaning towards a set of adjustable front ball joints and put the front camber to somewhere between -2.5 to -3 degrees, give or take. I might do coilovers with camber plates, depends on how much I feel like spending.

 

[MERAKIAUTOWORKS]

You can't adjust camber from the factory, front or rear.

The "pull the pins" trick is a hack, not a legit adjustment method, and it only applies to the front.



This doesn't really make sense. I think the best "easy fix" for springs alone is pull the pins in the front, leave the rear alone. That should theoretically put camber all around somewhat even after a springs install. Pulling pins and installing rear camber arms just gives more camber up front. Could be worse, but I just don't know why one would do that, unless you just feel like installing extra parts just because...

NOT pulling pins but installing rear camber arms would bring this back roughly to OEM specs. Which, apparently OEM specs can be as much as -2.3 degrees in the front according to this alignment printout.

In any case, none of it really makes THAT much of a difference, unless you're like me and sort of care about how the car carries itself around an autocross course. I noticed a substantial amount of new understeer after the springs install. I did not pull any pins, and installed the Eibach Prokit alone.

I'll be revisiting my camber situation in the spring, still not sure exactly what I'll do but leaning towards a set of adjustable front ball joints and put the front camber to somewhere between -2.5 to -3 degrees, give or take. I might do coilovers with camber plates, depends on how much I feel like spending.

Sorry in my situation I'm running coilovers. It wasn't necessary, but I wanted it just for the flexibility. You'd be surprised, lot of people still buy the arms with just springs too.

-Josh

 

[optronix]

Sorry in my situation I'm running coilovers. It wasn't necessary, but I wanted it just for the flexibility. You'd be surprised, lot of people still buy the arms with just springs too.

-Josh

I have no doubt, my question is around pulling the pins WITH the camber arms- because my understanding is that the camber arms are designed to bring the rear back to factory specs, so why actively choose to add more camber than OEM in the front by pulling springs?

Unless you want to add MORE camber to the rear, which again- doesn't make sense.

Again, none of this is critical stuff just made me scratch my head a little.

 

[MERAKIAUTOWORKS]

I have no doubt, my question is around pulling the pins WITH the camber arms- because my understanding is that the camber arms are designed to bring the rear back to factory specs, so why actively choose to add more camber than OEM in the front by pulling springs?

Unless you want to add MORE camber to the rear, which again- doesn't make sense.

Again, none of this is critical stuff just made me scratch my head a little.

I get what you are saying. It was what our alignment shop recommended so we went with it. I'd have to double check my alignment specs. We were going to do the whiteline adjustables in the front too but they said that wasn't necessary.

-Josh

 

[jdm_94]

Did you accidentally pull the pin on one of the struts? I don’t think you can get beyond 2 degrees with a lowering kit without doing that, but I might be wrong.

Nope, pin still in it.

 

[jdm_94]

Did they even adjust camber? Before and after looks damn near the same lol

Tought the same lol! Did ask and they told me they can’t do camber

 

[jdm_94]

I was just worry about the life of the tires, good to know tires wont be trash so fast with these specs! Maybe I’ll consider the SPC rears and whiteline balljoints for the front, till not sure if it will worth it to spend the kind of money yet. Thanks guys for the response!

 

[Integra23]

I was just worry about the life of the tires, good to know tires wont be trash so fast with these specs! Maybe I’ll consider the SPC rears and whiteline balljoints for the front, till not sure if it will worth it to spend the kind of money yet. Thanks guys for the response!

Oh they will be torn up . 20k miles and inside tread are gone.

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