Sticky/Jerky Steering issue

[Leehro]

Add me to the list.

Background: went grocery shopping and through an auto car wash to remove the salt from last week. Got home and got the emergency call in to work while I was unloading groceries. Drove 2 miles to work, spent 3 minutes fixing the computer that no one else could fix to make sure payroll clears.

About 1/4 mile after leaving, going 35mph in 4th gear up a mild incline with 2815 miles on the odo, I went to follow the slight left and BAM - the wheel fought me. It didn't feel like a "no power steering" it was a "this steering wheel is not going to move." It was surprising enough, I spoke a "Hello" to myself. I immediately knew what this was so I gave it a slight right - normal, back left for the original correction: normal again.

1 month back from the last warranty ordeal now I'm joining the rest of you in this new journey.

Edit: I use wireless AA every time I drive

Bummer. I’ve seen the trouble you’ve had in your other posts.

I updated the title to remove the CarPlay/USB part since others with the steering problem weren’t using those things.

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[submitaweasel]

Bummer. I’ve seen the trouble you’ve had in your other posts.

I updated the title to remove the CarPlay/USB part since others with the steering problem weren’t using those things.

And thus your thread shall become the steering issue megathread on this forum

Don't feel bad for me. I'm just an idiot that forgot how the corporate money machine has taken over in the 20 years since vehicles were reliable. I learned quite a bit from the last issue with the main takeaway being make as public of a spectacle as possible if you want results and I will be doing just that as more problems arise.

Edit: without this thread, I would not have had the same reaction I did. It would have been terror that something broke. With this thread, I was easily able to identify what was going on even though it was new to me.

 

[submitaweasel]

Add me to the list.

Background: went grocery shopping and through an auto car wash to remove the salt from last week. Got home and got the emergency call in to work while I was unloading groceries. Drove 2 miles to work, spent 3 minutes fixing the computer that no one else could fix to make sure payroll clears.

About 1/4 mile after leaving, going 35mph in 4th gear up a mild incline with 2815 miles on the odo, I went to follow the slight left and BAM - the wheel fought me. It didn't feel like a "no power steering" it was a "this steering wheel is not going to move." It was surprising enough, I spoke a "Hello" to myself. I immediately knew what this was so I gave it a slight right - normal, back left for the original correction: normal again.

1 month back from the last warranty ordeal now I'm joining the rest of you in this new journey.

Edit: I use wireless AA every time I drive

I will also add, whether it be relevant or not;

The only other time i have felt the steering feel that I felt today was the only time I have activated the LKAS and had green lines on the dash. Is it possible that this system is not fully disabled when selected off and causing this entire issue for us? Maybe?

I've also noticed that I can feel a speed weighted steering system in this car. I.e. below 20mph requires less effort for input vs above 30mph.

 

[submitaweasel]

I'm going to continue blowing up your thread:

I did some thinking this weekend while driving the car: what i experienced physically resembled a servomotor fighting me to stay at its programmed position. If anyone else has experience with position based electric motors please chime in.

 

[Leehro]

I'm going to continue blowing up your thread:

I did some thinking this weekend while driving the car: what i experienced physically resembled a servomotor fighting me to stay at its programmed position. If anyone else has experience with position based electric motors please chime in.

Please continue to blow it up. The more attention on this issue the better. There's obviously something going on...

 

[KiloFTW]

I'm going to continue blowing up your thread:

I did some thinking this weekend while driving the car: what i experienced physically resembled a servomotor fighting me to stay at its programmed position. If anyone else has experience with position based electric motors please chime in.

I’ve not experienced this issue, but from the descriptions I’ve wondered whether it feels similar to the lane departure resistance but without the dash warnings?

 

[submitaweasel]

Felt exactly the same to me.

I’ve not experienced this issue, but from the descriptions I’ve wondered whether it feels similar to the lane departure resistance but without the dash warnings?

 

[KiloFTW]

Felt exactly the same to me.

Interesting. And I saw that you have the lane departure system disabled from another thread. I wonder if there's a fault that would cause the force-feedback to engage unexpectedly. I also wonder if there's a way to further disable the steering wheel feedback other than the menu option, which might just control the sensors.

 

[submitaweasel]

Interesting. And I saw that you have the lane departure system disabled from another thread. I wonder if there's a fault that would cause the force-feedback to engage unexpectedly. I also wonder if there's a way to further disable the steering wheel feedback other than the menu option, which might just control the sensors.

What menu option? I'll be turning that off to see what happens

 

[submitaweasel]

Interesting. And I saw that you have the lane departure system disabled from another thread. I wonder if there's a fault that would cause the force-feedback to engage unexpectedly. I also wonder if there's a way to further disable the steering wheel feedback other than the menu option, which might just control the sensors.

It definitely felt like force feedback opposed to an issue in the rack. Which leads me to believe dealers are misdiagnosing the issue and also makes sense why we see repeat complaints after the racks have been replaced. I've experienced bad steering racks before and that is a completely different feeling.

The closest thing I've felt is a locked a/c servomotor with the drive engaged and the "stop" command on.

 

[KiloFTW]

What menu option? I'll be turning that off to see what happens

I was referring to your post in this thread: https://www.integraforums.com/forum/threads/how-to-turn-off-lane-assist.50693/post-825048

I had assumed that thread was related to the warning that you get from lane departure, and not the LKAS system, but maybe I misunderstood.

 

[submitaweasel]

I was referring to your post in this thread: https://www.integraforums.com/forum/threads/how-to-turn-off-lane-assist.50693/post-825048

I had assumed that thread was related to the warning that you get from lane departure, and not the LKAS system, but maybe I misunderstood.

Edit: I rewrote this because I did not sleep enough last night. Edited again: proofread shows it was still confusing.

I have the road departure mitigation turned off through the gauge cluster. The setting in the infotainment is still "normal". I thought with the gauge cluster setting being off, the infotainment setting did not mean anything. Until this instance on Saturday, that was the way it seemed. The loaner RDXs and MDX were the same. I adjusted the infotainment settings in those and it didn't disable it, the gauge cluster did. One of those had a button to disable things, I believe.

Regarding the lane keep assist: I activated it one time to see how it worked. The force feedback when I tried switching lanes felt exactly like what I felt Saturday, just without the system being on.

 

[55Fives55]

Just wanted to add my experience. Went to dealership and had the tech do a test drive. They said they can feel it slightly but was "consistent" with how the other integras drove (more of a feature...)... Guess I'm off to another dealership...

 

[Leehro]

Just wanted to add my experience. Went to dealership and had the tech do a test drive. They said they can feel it slightly but was "consistent" with how the other integras drove (more of a feature...)... Guess I'm off to another dealership...

did the car have any speed holes?

 

[PJK3]

Did anyone else who filed a report with the NHTSA get a phone call from them?

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