Catch Cans

[egxflash]

Is anybody running catch cans on their ITS?

I know the benefits of a catch can are hotly debated. My truck is also DI and those forums are rife with arguments, theory, whatever about the benefits of catch cans. For what it's worth, I considered it for the Silverado but ultimately decided not to.

Radium engineering has a PCV and CCV kit. https://unity-performance.com/products/radium-engineering-oil-catch-can-fk8?variant=39779133751458

I'm curious since I haven't seen any discussions about it here.

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[Integra23]

I'm running radium PCV only. I have seen others run both and the CCV doesn't catch much of anything

 

[SocalDE5]

I'm running radium PCV only. I have seen others run both and the CCV doesn't catch much of anything

Since having the catch can on, is it a pretty noticable amount?

I had mishimoto catch cans on my infiniti. They definately caught a lot and well worth it

 

[egxflash]

I'm still on the fence about this whole thing.

On the chevy forums, there's always a big brouhaha about dealers giving people shit about warranty issues for having a catch can so some people take it off before servicing - I don't really want to hassle with that.

 

[bpebler]

I still need to install the PCV Radium can & couple other things. Sorta waiting for the intake & charge pipes to show up and do it all at once. Point by Patrol was doing some cleaning after tracking and had some carbon findings so he planned on adding to his - before he totaled it this past weekend anyway.

Check with your dealer if it’s an issue with them or not, some don’t care & some do although with a catch can they really shouldn’t. It’s only helping the engine.

 

[optronix]

Yeah there's a whole thread sprouting from this same conversation on the civic forum. I think it's safe to assume that the valves are not immune to carbon/oil buildup, but jury is still out on how much a catch can would help with that.

 

[bpebler]

I agree. Even Corey at TSP mentioned he hasn’t heard of it helping much. Ben was the first to take his apart to verify it would help in his situation but he does track the car like crazy.

 

[Wolfnman2000]

I'm running radium PCV only. I have seen others run both and the CCV doesn't catch much of anything

Did you use the CTR kit?

I contacted Radium to ask/confirm compatibility and they suggested measuring the ID of the PCV hose and using their universal kit, as "We do not have a kit for this application."

Surely the PCV system is the same for both ITS and CTR engines, right?

 

[ABPDE5]

Did you use the CTR kit?

I contacted Radium to ask/confirm compatibility and they suggested measuring the ID of the PCV hose and using their universal kit, as "We do not have a kit for this application."

Surely the PCV system is the same for both ITS and CTR engines, right?

I can't actually confirm, but... yeah, there's no way it's not the same.

 

[SilverRocket]

Get a good oil with minimal evaporation and add a bottle of cleaner every oil change from new. It should be better than any catch can could offer with the added bonus of not being a potential warranty fight.

Supplement with frequent Italian tune ups for added cleanliness.

 

[ABPDE5]

Get a good oil with minimal evaporation and add a bottle of cleaner every oil change from new. It should be better than any catch can could offer with the added bonus of not being a potential warranty fight.

Supplement with frequent Italian tune ups for added cleanliness.

Do you have a recommendation re: cleaner? I've never considered that route.

 

[SilverRocket]

Do you have a recommendation re: cleaner? I've never considered that route.

My mechanic mentioned Wynn's and I trust him, but I was still going to do my due diligence closer to an oil change.

This is the one I believe he mentioned.

https://wynnsusa.com/product/fuel/advanced-power-clean/

Also a side FYI for everyone, it seems like the computer also considers time in it's assessment. It didn't seem to on my 2013 Civic, since I could still go over 1 year and not have my oil change warning pop. On the ITS, the percentage dropped to 70% after 4 month of sitting in storage 400km on the odometer. It's on track for about 0-10% by November (1 year) unless I drive it a lot this year.

 

[ABPDE5]

Interesting. I think I'll probably skip the cleaner and catch can route... They might help somewhat, but I don't think they'd alleviate the issue altogether. Eventually, you'll need to blast it regardless, but it seems Honda has done a relatively good job with the implementation on this motor, and that shouldn't be required too often.

I think high quality oil + regular intervals + making an effort to get the engine up to temp (i.e. short cold trips to a minimum) should be okay.

I don't mind paying for some walnut blasting eventually.

 

[StingertimeNC]

My mechanic mentioned Wynn's and I trust him, but I was still going to do my due diligence closer to an oil change.

This is the one I believe he mentioned.

https://wynnsusa.com/product/fuel/advanced-power-clean/

Also a side FYI for everyone, it seems like the computer also considers time in it's assessment. It didn't seem to on my 2013 Civic, since I could still go over 1 year and not have my oil change warning pop. On the ITS, the percentage dropped to 70% after 4 month of sitting in storage 400km on the odometer. It's on track for about 0-10% by November (1 year) unless I drive it a lot this year.

I think you're right on the oil change timer. Mine is down to 50% after 2600 miles, but 6 months of ownership. Gonna get it changed soon, regardless.

 

[bpebler]

Get a good oil with minimal evaporation and add a bottle of cleaner every oil change from new. It should be better than any catch can could offer with the added bonus of not being a potential warranty fight.

Supplement with frequent Italian tune ups for added cleanliness.

Hmm. So maybe I shouldn’t install the Radium can that’s been collecting dust for like 6 months. I’ve been using Amsoil and will use Mobil 1 and Pennzoil as well. I think it was the latter that had a great evap rating.

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