Summer tires, winter weather

[E~Dogg]

Hello, guess I'll give my shot.

Bought Aug '23 and ran the summer PS4s all the way to Oct/Nov '24. ITS is my daily, it's my everything (at least for traveling purposes). It lives outside minus my 8-10hr shifts at work while sitting in a temp-controlled garage and its parked on the street mostly everywhere else.

Live in Jersey, commute to NYC daily. Entering the '23-'24 winter season, I took my chances with the stock PS4s as I didn't care to throw down $1200 for the DWSs if it wasn't necessary (debatable). I did worry when the temps did dip below 45F at first but after repeated inspections in <20F weather with no visual or ride quality warnings, the worries stopped. I felt the tires were stiffer and created more road noise, but no white-knuckle moments when it came to traction. Rain, no problem, just steer clear of the puddles/pools. Snow wasn't much of a factor that season, but we did get ONE snowfall of maybe 1/4" of snow and that is the MAXIMUM amount of snow the PS4s can "handle". You will have some wheel spin if do anything but a slow rolling start for a green light. Obviously don't drive like an idiot and send it any corners. Slow and steady wins the race.

Last fall, tires were finally looking shot. One had a small bubble, but it was mostly thread wear overall. Picked up some Ironman iMove Gen 3 AS to just get me through this winter. Hopefully I'll have figured if I want a new wheel/tire setup this summer or keep it stock again.

Drive safe.

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[Type SSSHHH]

Hello, guess I'll give my shot.

Bought Aug '23 and ran the summer PS4s all the way to Oct/Nov '24. ITS is my daily, it's my everything (at least for traveling purposes). It lives outside minus my 8-10hr shifts at work while sitting in a temp-controlled garage and its parked on the street mostly everywhere else.

Live in Jersey, commute to NYC daily. Entering the '23-'24 winter season, I took my chances with the stock PS4s as I didn't care to throw down $1200 for the DWSs if it wasn't necessary (debatable). I did worry when the temps did dip below 45F at first but after repeated inspections in <20F weather with no visual or ride quality warnings, the worries stopped. I felt the tires were stiffer and created more road noise, but no white-knuckle moments when it came to traction. Rain, no problem, just steer clear of the puddles/pools. Snow wasn't much of a factor that season, but we did get ONE snowfall of maybe 1/4" of snow and that is the MAXIMUM amount of snow the PS4s can "handle". You will have some wheel spin if do anything but a slow rolling start for a green light. Obviously don't drive like an idiot and send it any corners. Slow and steady wins the race.

Last fall, tires were finally looking shot. One had a small bubble, but it was mostly thread wear overall. Picked up some Ironman iMove Gen 3 AS to just get me through this winter. Hopefully I'll have figured if I want a new wheel/tire setup this summer or keep it stock again.

Drive safe.

just out of curiosity how many miles did you get outta your PS4’s? They say 30k miles but somehow I doubt that’s accurate

 

[E~Dogg]

just out of curiosity how many miles did you get outta your PS4’s? They say 30k miles but somehow I doubt that’s accurate

Don't have exact but between 13-14k when I swapped.

 

[whtciv2k]

just out of curiosity how many miles did you get outta your PS4’s? They say 30k miles but somehow I doubt that’s accurate

I’ve had these tires on several different cars. At most, I got like 18k miles. On my old genesis coupe track, lasted 12k. I don’t track my cars and this was all street driving in the mid-Atlantic area.

 

[Victorofhavoc]

I’ve had these tires on several different cars. At most, I got like 18k miles. On my old genesis coupe track, lasted 12k. I don’t track my cars and this was all street driving in the mid-Atlantic area.

Did you try to have Michelin warranty them?

They've lasted 25-30k for me on other cars. About 17k on my wife's q7 now and still at 5.5/32nds or so, and the Q7 has far more torque and hook off the line (where a lot of wear occurs). Not to mention weight.

When I took my summers off at 4.5k mi, the wear was 1/32nd or so, and that includes one day at the track, which is surprising since I've eaten a whole set of new ps4s on a cayman during a private day before. Granted the alignment is aggressive on the street and the factory toe I had was way out of spec in the its. It was aligned at 1200 miles by the dealer with the alignment pins pulled before the track event. 0 toe front and 1/32nd toe in in rear, -1.9ish front camber and -1.8 rear.

I'd recommend an alignment for any new or used car purchase... Just look at the "before" on this car. It's pretty atrocious.

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