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Hey, all. Took my Type S in to have some rattles fixed and was looking to get my first oil change done with around 1405 miles. However, dealer will not change under the maintenance program unless at 15% oil life (still closer to 90%). Should I pay for them to do an oil change or just wait until 6-7500 miles? Iā€™ve always changed early, but Iā€™m not sure if itā€™s necessary with newer engines/synthetic oil. Some people do it for peace of mind for the metal flakes, but Iā€™ve also seen some people mention that oil was nearly black with wasted lubing properties tossed. Any advice?
Out of curiosity, what rattles did you have and was the dealer able to fix? I have a few around my cabin and am deciding if I should let them tear into the trim or just to suck it up.
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Iā€™ve had a tinny metallic buzzing sound since day 1 under acceleration seemingly from the dash. I was carefully taking apart the glove console to see if it was the heater core and a backup no trim in that area had a screw with a stripped thread so I wasnā€™t able to remove it without applying force. In doing so, I ended up breaking the led light and not being able to reinstall the trim flushly. At that point I said F this and scheduled an appointment for them to fix everything and take care of the passenger seat belt rattle I get as well on occasion. Fast forward to a day before dropping off the vehicle and there was a massive rainstorm where I drove through uneven terrain. It jostled my car enough to have the led light I was storing in the glove console to fall behind and near the fan/heater core area. The sound from the dash hasnā€™t been noticeable, and Iā€™m not sure if there was a nut that lodged in the engine compartment that shook free or if the led light fell into an area by the heater core to dampen the sound. Either way, I explained all this to the service rep who will have the tech look into replacing the led and hopefully confirming nothing is missing a nut and rattle areas are shimmed. Just dropped off today and got a loaner, and sadly I believe this is the first Type S this dealer has seen period since they didnā€™t get a demo so Iā€™m crazy worried the tech is gonna go joyriding and what not. Gary Force Acura is on notice ;)
 

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The vehicle will alert you with a A1 Service Due Soon light on the dashboard. Thats the only time you're able to schedule a time to bring the vehicle in for service.
Thatā€™s not true. It all depends on your dealer. I got my first oil change when I was at 40% oil life left. Didnā€™t even have to askā€¦my service guy offered. I was there for something else. Maybe they just wanted to take a closer look at my mods. šŸ˜Ž
 
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Iā€™ve had a tinny metallic buzzing sound since day 1 under acceleration seemingly from the dash. I was carefully taking apart the glove console to see if it was the heater core and a backup no trim in that area had a screw with a stripped thread so I wasnā€™t able to remove it without applying force. In doing so, I ended up breaking the led light and not being able to reinstall the trim flushly. At that point I said F this and scheduled an appointment for them to fix everything and take care of the passenger seat belt rattle I get as well on occasion. Fast forward to a day before dropping off the vehicle and there was a massive rainstorm where I drove through uneven terrain. It jostled my car enough to have the led light I was storing in the glove console to fall behind and near the fan/heater core area. The sound from the dash hasnā€™t been noticeable, and Iā€™m not sure if there was a nut that lodged in the engine compartment that shook free or if the led light fell into an area by the heater core to dampen the sound. Either way, I explained all this to the service rep who will have the tech look into replacing the led and hopefully confirming nothing is missing a nut and rattle areas are shimmed. Just dropped off today and got a loaner, and sadly I believe this is the first Type S this dealer has seen period since they didnā€™t get a demo so Iā€™m crazy worried the tech is gonna go joyriding and what not. Gary Force Acura is on notice ;)
Is this the Cool Springs Dealership by chance? They did have a White Demo a couple of weeks ago.
 

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Hey, all. Took my Type S in to have some rattles fixed and was looking to get my first oil change done with around 1405 miles. However, dealer will not change under the maintenance program unless at 15% oil life (still closer to 90%). Should I pay for them to do an oil change or just wait until 6-7500 miles? Iā€™ve always changed early, but Iā€™m not sure if itā€™s necessary with newer engines/synthetic oil. Some people do it for peace of mind for the metal flakes, but Iā€™ve also seen some people mention that oil was nearly black with wasted lubing properties tossed. Any advice?
I think the thing to note here is how when dealerships are charging you for oil changes they put a sticker in your window saying come back in like 3-5K miles, but when it is an initial free service period it's 7,500 miles. Personally I like to identify what I think is the best oil for the car and then I buy that in bulk and provide it to the dealer that will work with me to just charge me the labor portion of an oil change. My last oil change for my Hyundai Veloster N cost me a whopping $28 after I provided my own oil (Pennzoil Platinum fully synthetic). If I pick up an ITS I will probably get the first oil change around 4,000 miles and pay for that myself, then use the free oil changes from the service program down the line.
 

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Is this the Cool Springs Dealership by chance? They did have a White Demo a couple of weeks ago.
Yup, sorry wasnā€™t aware. I was going off of what someone else had mentioned but thinking now that may have been about pre orders not demos. I got my Type S delivered to St. Louis since they didnā€™t charge $5k markup and only charged $199 for doc fee. I hadnā€™t been back to Gary Force since I had my RSX, so not sure what their service is like. Just rolling the dice and hoping their service department is fine.
 
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I think the thing to note here is how when dealerships are charging you for oil changes they put a sticker in your window saying come back in like 3-5K miles, but when it is an initial free service period it's 7,500 miles. Personally I like to identify what I think is the best oil for the car and then I buy that in bulk and provide it to the dealer that will work with me to just charge me the labor portion of an oil change. My last oil change for my Hyundai Veloster N cost me a whopping $28 after I provided my own oil (Pennzoil Platinum fully synthetic). If I pick up an ITS I will probably get the first oil change around 4,000 miles and pay for that myself, then use the free oil changes from the service program down the line.
Nice, I hadnā€™t thought about that. Iā€™ll ask if they would accommodate that. Now I can go down the wormhole of best oil and lose myself for a couple of days.
 

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Yup, sorry wasnā€™t aware. I was going off of what someone else had mentioned but thinking now that may have been about pre orders not demos. I got my Type S delivered to St. Louis since they didnā€™t charge $5k markup and only charged $199 for doc fee. I hadnā€™t been back to Gary Force since I had my RSX, so not sure what their service is like. Just rolling the dice and hoping their service department is fine.
Gotcha, smart. I am also going out of state for that reason. GFA does get good reviews overall though.
 
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Well, just got the call from Gary Force Acura, not really impressed. They fixed the stripped screw, but will have to bring the car back to have led replaced since they didnā€™t have it in stock. Per service rep, shop foreman drove my car on the insterstate (of course he did), and road slowly to see if he could replicate the sound which he couldnā€™t. When I asked about the seat belt adjuster, basically replied that they didnā€™t bother looking at it because itā€™s going to make noise. So of the 4 things I brought my car into resolve (oil change, dashboard rattle, seat belt adjuster rattle, broken led/glove box area), they couldnā€™t do the oil change (for the best), only drove the car versus checking the engine compartment/console area for an issue that hopefully resolved itself, didnā€™t bother addressing the seat belt rattle, and fixed what they could in the glove box. Not a bad dealer experience per se, but not a great one either. I appreciated the loaner, the water, and belvita snack I got from their waiting area so thereā€™s that.
 

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When I asked about the seat belt adjuster, basically replied that they didnā€™t bother looking at it because itā€™s going to make noise.
That's BS. I mean, they are kinda right, but to not even look at it is BS. I had the rattle on my A-Spec from day 1, brought it in to get it looked at, and they fixed it. 10,000 km later, it popped back up, but I called a few days ago and they're willing to bring it back to re-tighten.
 

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That's BS. I mean, they are kinda right, but to not even look at it is BS. I had the rattle on my A-Spec from day 1, brought it in to get it looked at, and they fixed it. 10,000 km later, it popped back up, but I called a few days ago and they're willing to bring it back to re-tighten.
Wait are you talking about Gary Force Acura or just your local dealer. Iā€™m assuming your local Canadian dealer based on the km mention. Canada quality of life is just better. The caucasity at my elite Nashville Acura doesnā€™t have time to deal with the trifling issues that a minority has in a car they donā€™t deserve, especially one without a $5k mark up.
 

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Wait are you talking about Gary Force Acura or just your local dealer. Iā€™m assuming your local Canadian dealer based on the km mention. Canada quality of life is just better. The caucasity at my elite Nashville Acura doesnā€™t have time to deal with the trifling issues that a minority has in a car they donā€™t deserve, especially one without a $5k mark up.
Damn. Yeah I was speaking about my local dealer, but actually any of the Acura dealers within 50km of me would probably take a look. That sucks honestly.
 
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I think the buzzing noise Iā€™m hearing under throttle is a normal if not annoying engine sound perhaps the fuel injectors. It doesnā€™t seem to be coming from inside the cabin and is most likely a sound that the firewall is unable to fully remove. I heard a similar yet more muffled sound in the TLX, and googling buzzing under acceleration seems to come up under every Honda/Acura (Ridgeline, FL5, MDX,Integra). Itā€™s not super loud, but you can definitely hear it when feathering the throttle. Less noticeable with music/rain/hard acceleration. Iā€™m resigned to let this one go and try to accept it as hard as it is for me to not tear the whole car apart looking for it.
 
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I think the buzzing noise Iā€™m hearing under throttle is a normal if not annoying engine sound perhaps the fuel injectors. It doesnā€™t seem to be coming from inside the cabin and is most likely a sound that the firewall is unable to fully remove. I heard a similar yet more muffled sound in the TLX, and googling buzzing under acceleration seems to come up under every Honda/Acura (Ridgeline, FL5, MDX,Integra). Itā€™s not super loud, but you can definitely hear it when feathering the throttle. Less noticeable with music/rain/hard acceleration. Iā€™m resigned to let this one go and try to accept it as hard as it is for me to not tear the whole car apart looking for it.
Hey, Iā€™m also in Nashville with an ITS. Are you still thinking the buzzing under throttle is normal? Mine has always had a very faint buzzing but now that Iā€™m past the break in and starting to push the car, it gets quite loud at higher RPM. Thinking about taking it in and am hoping Gary Force will actually look into it since we both have that issue.
 
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Hey, Iā€™m also in Nashville with an ITS. Are you still thinking the buzzing under throttle is normal? Mine has always had a very faint buzzing but now that Iā€™m past the break in and starting to push the car, it gets quite loud at higher RPM. Thinking about taking it in and am hoping Gary Force will actually look into it since we both have that issue.
Hey. I keep hoping itā€™s not normal and can be fixed, but am afraid it may be something we have to live with. Iā€™ve torn the interior apart and know it isnā€™t loose wiring. I disconnected the nc modulator in case it was feedback from the fake engine noise and not the case. In doing some digging on civic forums, it appears this affects FK8/FL5s too. Some have mentioned a fuel wastegate, but I think it may be the electronic throttle body that Honda uses. The sound only comes when throttle is applied and would make sense if thatā€™s the case. Either way it sucks and ruins the driving experience because it isnā€™t as faint and really ruins the engine/exhaust note. I can wheat at times over music at normal volumes and hear the most in 2/3rd gear since thatā€™s the gear used most in 40 mph speed limits and the noise at that speed isnā€™t loud enough to mask it. Less noticeable during hard acceleration but still present. A tattoo gun sound that makes your engine sound that much more like a kazoo and something I have not experienced from any other car manufacturer. I wish it didnā€™t bug me as much as it does, but for the price of the car I find it hard to swallow. I still havenā€™t been contacted by Gary to replace the LED and just shot a text to my rep this morning. If you do go take it in, be sure to ask for a ride along up front so you donā€™t waste your time have the shop foreman gaslight you. I wouldnā€™t mention what you think it may be and ask him to explain why the car is buzzes under throttle separate from the engine/exhaust note. If you find a solution please share so I donā€™t end up passing the issue to someone else.
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