ForeverCar’s ITS Journal

[Integra23]

The naturally aspirated guess is getting warm.

How many doors?

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[ForeverCar]

How many doors?

2-door. Iconic shape.

 

[ForeverCar]

This might give it away…

 

[ABPDE5]

993 911 RS?

 

[ForeverCar]

993 911 RS?

I have not seen a 993 RS in that color. Perhaps a PTS one exists somewhere. So close I might as well share now.

 

[ForeverCar]

A 964 RS.

 

[chuuey]

Really nice thread, OP- enjoying your perspective on a variety of cars and their respective experiences.

Congrats on the RS- a true timeless winner as the factory 964s continue to get gobbled up for modernization. Rubystone is a stunner.

 

[bvanlieu]

Looks like one of the colors from the classic Porsche commercial 'Colours', but I thinks that was 993 and not 964. Either way, I personally like a late 80s/90s 911 in a non standard color. Thats just a good looking car no matter how you slice it

 

[ForeverCar]

Transition from an incredible event, I finally have a chance to collect my thoughts on the 964 RS.

When I drove the car briefly a few months ago, I enjoyed it but did not have a chance to really understand the car. I got to spend 3 days and over 500 miles on some incredible roads around and the tail of the dragon. Now, I feel like I finally understand the car. The legendary status is well deserved. It is a very specialized car and if you are looking for this specific combination, there probably is not a better car. First of all, the car is 32 years old but feels rock solid and performs incredibly. The analog nature is great. Unassisted steering, no rev hang, a shifter that takes a bit of work, suspension that allows a bit of movement, small tires (compared to modern cars), the finely tuned engine all works perfectly together. Up shift timing needs to be pretty quick so rev does not fall too far, downshift rev matching takes commitment (if the throttle closes and rev drops too low, it takes a bit of rev it back up), the steering communicates all the details you would want, the front needs weight transfer for good turn in while balancing getting weight back to the rear, the suspension takes a brief moment to take a set. Practicing getting into the flow with all of this while enjoying the amazing sound track, one of the best driving experiences!

 

[ForeverCar]

Extremely fortunate that I also got to experience a few other incredible Porsches besides the 964 RS. About 20 miles of amazing roads in a 993 RS, a short test drive in a 997 GT3RS 4.0L, and ~2 hours in a CGT! To me, the 993 RS is “too refined”. The 997 GT3RS 4.0L and CGT are truly special!

Bringing it back to the ITS, jumping back into the ITS after some amazing cars, it still feels special to me. The combination works very well and all the unique touches do add up to making it a special car and experience.

 

[optronix]

A 997 GT3RS is at the very top of my list as far as "eff you money" cars go. 4.0 even more so... probably my #1 Porsche of all time.

I haven't figured out the appeal of air-cooled Porsches.

You must have some truly interesting friends lol.

 

[ABPDE5]

That's a memorable weekend for sure!

 

[ForeverCar]

A 997 GT3RS is at the very top of my list as far as "eff you money" cars go. 4.0 even more so... probably my #1 Porsche of all time.

I haven't figured out the appeal of air-cooled Porsches.

You must have some truly interesting friends lol.

I had a chance to drive the 3.8L version before and thought it was great but not quite “grail” material. Before driving the 4.0L, I thought it would just be a little better here and there. Perhaps typical of Porsche, all those small improvements made the 4.0L “grail” material.

Aircooled simplicity is pretty awesome (no water pump, no liquid coolant passing through block and heads, no radiators for this liquid, etc). The mechanical sounds are enjoyable. The overall build is also very solid feeling. My mind is still blown that the 964 RS I drove is 32 years old. Every time, I close the door, that sound brings a smile to my face.

I am definitely grateful for the amazing friends that made these experiences possible (well, one way or another, there is a “price” to pay ). There was a Singer 911 and F40 that I did not get to drive.

 

[RamVA]

I had a chance to drive the 3.8L version before and thought it was great but not quite “grail” material. Before driving the 4.0L, I thought it would just be a little better here and there. Perhaps typical of Porsche, all those small improvements made the 4.0L “grail” material.

I have a 997.1 GT3 (3.6, non-RS) as my track car (still street-legal). It used to be an amazing road car, but I largely ruined that with my track mods (mostly suspension, but also the carbon buckets and the solid motor mounts). I could use another 100hp, but it is perhaps one-fifth the cost of the 4.0, so I live with it.

 

[ForeverCar]

I have a 997.1 GT3 (3.6, non-RS) as my track car (still street-legal). It used to be an amazing road car, but I largely ruined that with my track mods (mostly suspension, but also the carbon buckets and the solid motor mounts). I could use another 100hp, but it is perhaps one-fifth the cost of the 4.0, so I live with it.

As a track car, I would imagine you have addressed the coolant pipes, yes?

At least you turned it into an amazing track car.

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