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I have yet to hear an aftermarket exhaust in person, but the DP+FP and stock exhaust combo sounds the best on video. It seems some of the valved exhaust options are loud in comfort which completely defeats the purpose to me.

Valvetronic makes some incredible exhausts where the sound is night and day, but I’m not sure they would build an application for these vehicles. I’m debating picking up their muffler kit and having a custom one made.
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Have you gotten a downpipe yet? I'm running the RV6 and I find the exhaust is louder than stock.
This is a good point, and TBH I didn't really consider it for too long because I just assumed you'd need a tune as it's upstream from at least one 02 sensor. I'm not interested in a tune at the moment, but possibly down the line.

I'm sure it does sound great though. Anyone already interested in a tune should most definitely consider this route.
 

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I'll be doing an exhaust as my next mod I think. The car sounds great stock, just not loud enough. But also I don't want to overrotate, I'm too old to have a fart cannon. I'm strongly considering Milltek but that's the last part for me to overcome, is vids where it sounds like it might be too aggressive for my liking.

So the MBRP comes with both sections; resonated and non-resonated, right?



There is a set for sale on the Civic forums in +45 that I would have bought had I seen them before I bought my Apex set. I love these wheels, and will quite likely end up buying some at some point. I favor the Hyper Black (i.e., shiny gunmetal) variant but the black looks amazing as well.

Any issues with fitment at all? I think I recall you're on springs; any other concerns with the +35 offset? I think from an availability perspective there are far more wheels available on the open market (i.e., in stock and ready to ship) in these aggressive offsets than more "OEM plus" type fitments. I'm no longer averse to getting springs so I'm wondering how the fitment, ride, steering, etc. is affected with these below +40 offsets. Also I think if I have to go down to a 255 that would be enough for me to pass; I think for any type of motorsport-ey stuff wider is better. Any impressions you have would be helpful.

They look great! More pics would also be appreciated!
Thank you! I’ll have to snap some more pics once I get the car out the garage but yes, I’m on Swift springs currently and no major concerns with the +35 offset on the 255/35 profiles. I eventually want to go with 265/35 or even 285/30/19, but when I ran my TEs that were +36 on these same tires, I didn’t run into any issues. I also haven’t tracked or driven my car as hard as others since there are no nice canyon/windey roads here in Houston. Sorry that may not help as much with impressions
 

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Thank you! I’ll have to snap some more pics once I get the car out the garage but yes, I’m on Swift springs currently and no major concerns with the +35 offset on the 255/35 profiles. I eventually want to go with 265/35 or even 285/30/19, but when I ran my TEs that were +36 on these same tires, I didn’t run into any issues. I also haven’t tracked or driven my car as hard as others since there are no nice canyon/windey roads here in Houston. Sorry that may not help as much with impressions
Those wheels look great! I love TE37s (and want a set) but do feel it's a little played out.

How much do these weigh?
 

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Those wheels look great! I love TE37s (and want a set) but do feel it's a little played out.

How much do these weigh?
I’ve always loved TEs on any vehicle, but am right there with you re: the played out comment. Most FL5/DE5s are running the 18” TE37SLs, so if you get 19” Ultras you’d be part of only a handful running those.

The Advans weigh roughly 19-20lbs each. Was super obvious in weight difference when removing the OEM wheels and putting the Advans on this weekend.
 

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I’ve always loved TEs on any vehicle, but am right there with you re: the played out comment. Most FL5/DE5s are running the 18” TE37SLs, so if you get 19” Ultras you’d be part of only a handful running those.

The Advans weigh roughly 19-20lbs each. Was super obvious in weight difference when removing the OEM wheels and putting the Advans on this weekend.
Oh nice. I've been thinking about aftermarket wheels but refuse to go any heavier than stock (which is pretty light to begin with).

I won't be tracking my ITS so I'm only looking at 19s also since I don't think 18s look good on this car.
 

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Oh nice. I've been thinking about aftermarket wheels but refuse to go any heavier than stock (which is pretty light to begin with).

I won't be tracking my ITS so I'm only looking at 19s also since I don't think 18s look good on this car.
Basically anything forged is going to be ~19-20 lbs. 18s would be lighter still.

Flow-formed and you're looking at not as much gain over OEM, and you'll have to find out if they're actually heavier. I was looking at HRE FF and Gram Lights, which are flow-formed, and Apex has some FF options too, and they're all coming in around 23-27 lbs. So barely lighter than OEM, which I think are ~27 lbs. But some of them look pretty nice and get rid of that "sunk in" look of the +60 offset OEM wheels, which has really started to become unpleasing to the eyes for me.
 

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Basically anything forged is going to be ~19-20 lbs. 18s would be lighter still.

Flow-formed and you're looking at not as much gain over OEM, and you'll have to find out if they're actually heavier. I was looking at HRE FF and Gram Lights, which are flow-formed, and Apex has some FF options too, and they're all coming in around 23-27 lbs. So barely lighter than OEM, which I think are ~27 lbs. But some of them look pretty nice and get rid of that "sunk in" look of the +60 offset OEM wheels, which has really started to become unpleasing to the eyes for me.
Right, that I am well aware of.

The Apex VS-5RS are very nice but to me look OEM-adjacent and I wanted something a bit different.

I love the look of CE-28Ns so that's my current frontrunner. Second in line would be a 5-spoke like @Kvtran21's Advans.
 

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Right, that I am well aware of.

The Apex VS-5RS are very nice but to me look OEM-adjacent and I wanted something a bit different.

I love the look of CE-28Ns so that's my current frontrunner. Second in line would be a 5-spoke like @Kvtran21's Advans.
Your taste echoes mine very closely, if not exactly. I did go with Apex but they weren't my first choice- mostly I just got enthralled with the color. I'm very excited to see Satin Bronze on my PRP car.

CE28s to my knowledge are not available in 19s. Advan GTs most certainly are, and there are some available right here, right now, and local to you at a great price!!!!
 

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all three of those wheels look great on this car.

Regarding the exhaust sound, TSP downpipe won't throw a code and won't need a defouler or tune. Add a front pipe along with it and the exhaust sounds great. Not as throaty as these aftermarket's are though. But they should net a few more hp/tq at least.
 

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Your taste echoes mine very closely, if not exactly. I did go with Apex but they weren't my first choice- mostly I just got enthralled with the color. I'm very excited to see Satin Bronze on my PRP car.

CE28s to my knowledge are not available in 19s. Advan GTs most certainly are, and there are some available right here, right now, and local to you at a great price!!!!
If I'm spending that much dough on wheels, I'd want the color I want and black ain't it.

Great deal though!
 

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Spoon Rigid collars
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Sirimoto clutch damper delete
Acuity shifter cable bushings.

The car does not like having its battery removed as it wouldn't crank for a short while after putting everything back together. Then the Christmas lights filled up my dashboard after we got it started. All good now though.

The motor mount increased a bit of vibration at idle and some noise as you're in motion, but it really is minor.

Overall the car feels tighter and the clutch is easier to modulate imo. Initially my concern was that these mods would dramatically alter certain facets of the drive, but that isn't the case at all.



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Sound clips of the MBRP (unresonated)!

There's a "hiss" in the audio which is just the sound bouncing off my garage walls and doors. Just general ambient sounds. I recorded the video about 3 feet from the rear so everything sounds louder than it actually is.

Notes: This is UNRESONATED.

Findings:
Sound - Is deeper than stock with a nice growl. All modes are like a tick above factory ie, comfort is now sport, sport is now sport+, sport+ is something else entirely, Race(?). Definitely an increase in volume across the board but not obnoxious. Haven't measured the db level yet.
Cold start - Also louder thank stock, not obnoxiously loud but louder for sure. Has a nice grumble to it and even a light pop on warm start. You can hear it at the 1s-2s mark. Neighbors won't mind, I'm sure.
Visuals - Looks great! I might still go with a polished/rolled tips option because I prefer a cleaner/factory look. I've also thought about having the tips coated/painted in a gray/gunmetal. You can adjust the tips (I still need to adjust mine) to your liking.

Impressions:
Comfort mode as we know it no longer exists, sounds like valves are open ALL the time, the biggest change is that burbles are more noticeable (see below on Sport/Sport+). In terms of noise and volume, Comfort is now like Sport, you'll definitely notice and hear burbles (no pops or bangs). If you're looking for stock levels of quiet, this is not it. Even though the exhaust is valved, the valve is only for the center pipe, the side mufflers bypass the valves, hence more volume in all modes. If you're good with throttle modulation you can get the exhaust to be dead silent still, but it's no longer quiet like factory Comfort mode otherwise.
Sport mode is now like Sport+, factory burbles and pops but definitely more volume (louder). No drone on the highway but there's definitely vibration you can feel from the resonance on the floor at about 2500RPM.

Sport+, same as Sport in terms of volume but let me tell you about the noise. There are no burbles here, only POPS and *BANGS*! Super aggressive in terms of intensity though still retaining factory behavior. Videos do it no justice, they are LOUDER than what the video leads you to believe. Those are *BANGS* and *SNAPS* at 58s and all POPS afterwards.

Overall, I don't know how I feel about it just yet because I typically drive in Sport+ throttle mode anyway but having a "silent" comfort mode is nice for when I don't want any attention. Now I'm in the "new" comfort mode most of the time instead because it's loud enough to be enjoyed and the burbles satisfy that part of my lizard brain. Sport mode for when I'm looking for a little more drama. Sport+ only when I'm feeling rowdy and no other cars around. I'm too self-conscious to open it all the way up otherwise. This actually works out for me because I prefer the throttle mapping on Sport and Comfort compared to Sport+. YMMV.

I'll try the resonated version next weekend as I get some more seat time on the current set up. I have I feeling I'll like the resonated version more.



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what difference do you think the resonated will make? Also, do they have an option that has all 3 valved?
 

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Installed today:

Spoon Rigid collars
PRL rear motor mount
Sirimoto clutch damper delete
Acuity shifter cable bushings.

The car does not like having its battery removed as it wouldn't crank for a short while after putting everything back together. Then the Christmas lights filled up my dashboard after we got it started. All good now though.

The motor mount increased a bit of vibration at idle and some noise as you're in motion, but it really is minor.

Overall the car feels tighter and the clutch is easier to modulate imo. Initially my concern was that these mods would dramatically alter certain facets of the drive, but that isn't the case at all.



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Nice, did you happen to install the rigid collars yourself?

Curious how difficult an at home install would be, and how long it would take. If not, would you reco the shop you had it done at, I'm in the GTA on the east end.
 

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Nice, did you happen to install the rigid collars yourself?

Curious how difficult an at home install would be, and how long it would take. If not, would you reco the shop you had it done at, I'm in the GTA on the east end.
No, had it done at a shop due to a personal lack of experience in lowering the subframe. It was about a 2 hour process when carefully following the instructions step by step.

i had mine done at RiWorx - located in Northeast Mississauga. These guys took the time to do things correctly - printing off additional torque specs for all bolts, for example.

Interesting to note for all DE5 owners - my subframe bolts were all very loose from factory, almost to the point where you can loosen them by hand. Even if you don't get the rigid collars installed, would highly recommend checking those to ensure it's within spec.
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