Brake hold button

[Victorofhavoc]

It's just a convenience that allows the car to remain stopped while you take your foot off the brake pedal. I think it encourages a bad habit. If you want the car stopped, I think you should be taking some affirmative action to do it.

I just don't see where the convenience is. It already has hill hold, but I just don't get the difficulty in holding down the brake pedal while stopped. Maybe my brain just isn't wired for it.

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[Type SSSHHH]

They should skipped this feature and gave us a heated steering wheel.

 

[elh0102]

I just don't see where the convenience is. It already has hill hold, but I just don't get the difficulty in holding down the brake pedal while stopped. Maybe my brain just isn't wired for it.

Exactly my point. The perfect answer to a nonexistent problem.

 

[nawfoo]

Brake hold is more of a convenience. When your at a stop light you can take your foot off the gas. It's also slightly faster getting off the line because your foot is on the clutch and gas waiting for the light to turn green.

Side note: the car will hold in first gear and reverse with no e brake engaged. For some reason when I did this the car holds but lurches forward while its completely off.

 

[NoelPR]

I use it all the time to prevent the car from rolling and relax.

Hill hold don't always engages, specially on small slopes.

 

[elh0102]

Brake hold is more of a convenience. When your at a stop light you can take your foot off the gas. It's also slightly faster getting off the line because your foot is on the clutch and gas waiting for the light to turn green.

Side note: the car will hold in first gear and reverse with no e brake engaged. For some reason when I did this the car holds but lurches forward while its completely off.

There will be a small amount of movement after shutting down, as the crank completes or reverses the stroke it was on. At that point, the mechanical slack is removed and, absent a strong force, the car should not move.

 

[Victorofhavoc]

I still don't get it. If I'm at a red light and I'm fully stopped, why would I ever engage hold? My foot is on the brake anyway, and that's no different in any other car. By the time I clutch, get into gear, and start releasing the clutch, the car is already starting to move and then I just give it gas to go.

I mean I could understand if you're learning and you don't know where the clutch engagement is, but once you learn your clutch and feel the engagement you should be slipping before you've ever touched the throttle, so you'll never move back even after you release the brake. The hill assist just helps in reverse uphill and when you're on a very steep slope so you need the half second of time to raise revs. I don't get where the hill hold helps at all...

 

[nawfoo]

Just try driving around the city with it on. Its so comfortable taking your foot off the brake at stop lights. Also, if you ever been on the westcoast the drivers here are assholes and will honk at you half a second after the light turns green.

 

[Victorofhavoc]

Just try driving around the city with it on. Its so comfortable taking your foot off the brake at stop lights. Also, if you ever been on the westcoast the drivers here are assholes and will honk at you half a second after the light turns green.

So you use this to not have to press the brake at a light? You're actually taking your foot off the brake in traffic?

Seems unnerving and wrong to me. I switch between too many cars to try and build a habit of not being on the brake at a light.

I wouldn't be concerned about their honking. They can be patient like humans. I'm from Europe and have driven on that continent in tiny cars, with 60hp, and everyone is in a manual and up your ass. Hill assist is entirely unnecessary even with the car behind you on a hill leaving mere centimeters of room for your roll back. Again, your clutch work can easily keep you from rolling and the car should already be lurching as you slip the clutch and let go of the brake.

I've given it a try around town... I don't like it. I feel it holds too hard. Bogs the car from the clutch pulling you away, so you always need a ton more throttle to break free of the brake.

I'm surprised anyone uses it at lights or around town. I just don't see it as a realistic use and that's why I'm asking what anyone else is using it for. Your case seems to be more "other drivers causing anxiety, so use it like left foot braking in a dsg or auto." I can understand that somewhat.

 

[elh0102]

My goodness, its use is optional, use it or don't use it. We don't need to question everyone's preference.

 

[Integra23]

So you use this to not have to press the brake at a light? You're actually taking your foot off the brake in traffic?

Seems unnerving and wrong to me. I switch between too many cars to try and build a habit of not being on the brake at a light.

I wouldn't be concerned about their honking. They can be patient like humans. I'm from Europe and have driven on that continent in tiny cars, with 60hp, and everyone is in a manual and up your ass. Hill assist is entirely unnecessary even with the car behind you on a hill leaving mere centimeters of room for your roll back. Again, your clutch work can easily keep you from rolling and the car should already be lurching as you slip the clutch and let go of the brake.

I've given it a try around town... I don't like it. I feel it holds too hard. Bogs the car from the clutch pulling you away, so you always need a ton more throttle to break free of the brake.

I'm surprised anyone uses it at lights or around town. I just don't see it as a realistic use and that's why I'm asking what anyone else is using it for. Your case seems to be more "other drivers causing anxiety, so use it like left foot braking in a dsg or auto." I can understand that somewhat.

That's exactly what it's for and you need to activate it on each drive to use. It's great at carwashes when they tell you to put it in neutral

 

[AsianEd]

I dont use brake hold very often, but it comes in handy every once in awhile. I typically only use it during times where I'm stopped for a longer period of time, but not long enough to use the parking brake.

The most common situation is when waiting in line at Costco for gas. I'll sit there for a few minutes waiting for the line to inch forward and its a hassle to constantly engage/disengage the electronic parking brake. Sure, I could hold the brake pedal manually for 3 or 4 minutes, but that gets tiring. It's nice to be able to put the car in gear and let off the clutch to roll forward when needed and apply the brake to come to a stop.

In a car with a manual parking brake, I wouldn't use the feature much since its much faster to engsge/disengage the parking brake with a physical lever.

 

[whtciv2k]

It’s amazing to me how many people don’t know the difference between what brake hold and ebrake is in this thread

 

[elh0102]

It’s amazing to me how many people don’t know the difference between what brake hold and ebrake is in this thread

And hill hold.

 

[nawfoo]

brake hold and hill hold are the same thing. Its my fault for commenting that first gear will not hold the car on a hill that started this mess.

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