Type S versus new Model 3 Performance

[QUIKAG]

So, with the $7,500 fed tax credit, it's like $49k for a Model 3 Performance with adaptive suspension, sport seats, sport brakes and basically 500hp with 0-60 in less than 3 seconds from what I've read.

Besides range anxiety and needing superchargers on road trips, it seems like the Model 3 Performance has the Type S covered from a performance perspective.

That said, multiple laps on track would degrade the Model 3 and also the utter lack of engine sound and no shifting versus a sublime six-speed.

I'm still loving my Type S as I have 3 manual transmission cars and love them, but it's hard to deny the continued improvement of EV's.

Anyone debated or even cross shopped the new Model 3 Performance versus the Type S?

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[Vinnie]

nope, Tesla wasn't on my radar and still isn't on my radar. for me i'm much more into an engaging driving experience rather than pure performance. I'm also not sold on the EV yet. we previously had an EV and traded it in for the ITS. for some i'm sure it's great, but i'm just giving my personal opinion. i didn't buy this car for 0-60 times (manual fwd 4cylinder). depending on your use case and what you desire, you may enjoy the Tesla more. just make sure you wave to me when you blow the doors off my car in a straight line haha

 

[hiddenrun]

Anyone debated or even cross shopped the new Model 3 Performance versus the Type S?

If your side hustle is driving an Uber, Model 3 all the way.

 

[crepr12]

Not that into batteries...I'm sure they are great cars..just not for me

 

[edido]

Wow, I don't even know how to compare the two
I owned a performance SUV EV in the past (Ford Mustang Mach-E GT), and it's not even comparable. Like, it's a completely different experience...

 

[SlippyFist]

you couldn't pay me to own a tesla lol

 

[NoelPR]

Driving a Model 3P is like playing Contra in God mode.

Fun in the beginning but gets boring fast.

Luckily, they come with self-driving capabilities for those who fall asleep due to extreme boredom.

 

[akoza]

I test drove a Model 3 performance and was wowed by the acceleration - that's about it. I feel that will quickly wear off. The lack of engagement, build quality issues, and the minimalistic interface (lack buttons and everything is hidden in a touch screen) were all a deal breaker for me.

If I were to go to an EV today (I won't, I'm clutching [hehe, pun not intended] onto my 3 pedals until they're taken away from me forever), I'd consider the Hyundai Ioniq 5 N, the BMW i4 M50, or maaaaybe the Acura ZDX Type S (I'm probably a little biased on that one because I drove one an autocross course recently and had a blast). Granted all of those are not in the same price tier as the Model 3 performance.

 

[Clark_Kent]

You won't receive any positive EV commentary on most ICE enthusiast forums. These conversations get political, misinformed, and unproductive very quickly.

Your best bet is to test drive the car yourself and draw your own conclusions. Don't cave to peer pressure of people telling you they're lame. If you like it, buy it, that's all that matters. People track them and they do very well with minor weight reduction and suspension modifications. Consumables are also minimal since pads, rotors, fluids, shims, etc. are largely an afterthought. Thermal management has also improved significantly in recent model years and power loss related to lower SOC is also much better than it once was. FWIW, and it may not be much, the DE5 will overheat on track before the Model 3 Performance will.

 

[Integra23]

EVs are the future. Definitely quick.
I wish the Model 3 was offered as a hatch. It is a nice sized vehicle and I give Tesla props for offering a sedan vs CUV/SUV.
For me I currently refuel my ITS twice a week and it's usually on the way to work. I wouldn't want to wait 45mins for a charge. Also there's only 2 charging locations that are near my daily commute, I have never looked to see what the wait times are.

 

[egxflash]

I like Teslas and would consider one when it's time to replace the wife's SUV but the model 3 and Type S aren't even in the same NEIGHBORHOOD for comparison purposes.

Maybe that's because the biggest draw of the ITS/CTR for me was the manual transmission - that had maybe 90% of the sway as to why I went with one of these two vs something else like an m240i

 

[egxflash]

EVs are the future. Definitely quick.
I wish the Model 3 was offered as a hatch. It is a nice sized vehicle and I give Tesla props for offering a sedan vs CUV/SUV.
For me I currently refuel my ITS twice a week and it's usually on the way to work. I wouldn't want to wait 45mins for a charge. Also there's only 2 charging locations that are near my daily commute, I have never looked to see what the wait times are.

It doesn't quite work out that way though - you shouldn't have to wait 45 minutes for a charge during your commute because the car's been charging overnight at your house.

 

[Justpassedu]

I very briefly checked out the Tesla before getting my type s and only bc my good friend happened to have both the performance and plaid model. While I did not get to drive the plaid , he did let me drive the performance and that's only bc the plaid was in another state. I hated almost everything about it except the acceleration it provided. I am so happy I went with my type s. Sure it was pretty quick but it was no fun to me, accelerating fast gets old quick. He went from a Skyline gtr to the tesla line and now he just purchased the new electric Porsche. He personally loves electric vehicles , I happen to love a gasoline engine. On a side note my buddy got the new M3 in a manual and we swapped cars yesterday for a 30 minute ride. While i felt the new M3 was fast , even in M mode the car felt sedated compared to the type s to me. The Type S steering felt better, the connection to the road and gear box. The M3 was more of a luxury , soft riding vehicle granted I only had a half hour with it coming back to my type s made me appreciate it even more.

 

[QUIKAG]

Y'all saying you have driven the Model 3 Performance, was it the heavily revised '24 model with the new sport seats, adaptive suspension, 510hp, etc?

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2024-tesla-model-3-performance-first-look-review/

The new one seems like much more of a complete performance sedan (save the lack of shift yourself and engine sounds).

 

[Kvtran21]

Haven’t driven or rode in the new M3P, but coming from a p85, 90D and driven a p90D, there is no doubt that the Tesla’s will be quicker. The model S regardless of which trim it was, always felt like a boat to me in terms of maneuverability. I do miss the convenience of autopilot, not having to pump gas, air suspension, etc.

I’d only go back to a Tesla if I purchased it used after the original owner soaks up the depreciation and if it still has the factory warranty left on it. Repair costs get pretty expensive outside of warranty period. Ask me how I know

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