dockleryxk
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hahaha at least!!!So your saying the rear brakes should last 100k miles?
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hahaha at least!!!So your saying the rear brakes should last 100k miles?
What are you doing differently? I'm not a tire expert, but this to me looks like normal wear, but WAY more than I'd expect at 12k miles. This is worse than my 911 was at that time. This car doesn't have an engineering excuse like a 911 does, it shares its underpinnings with a Honda Civic. So a couple pictures from one dude on a forum isn't really helpful in setting expectations that I should set aside $2k every year for new tires and brakes. (that said I'm switching to 200 TW tires next year and use all-seasons half the year so this whole conversation is probably moot but I'm still curious)Get like me bro this was at ~12k miles
For real though, are you that hard on tires? Because if so, you’ve got about 3k miles left.
There’s a guy local to me that changes the front tires on his FK8 every 5k miles. That’s crazy, but equally as crazy as expecting over 20k miles from the OE tires if you’re driving them hard at all.
What are you doing differently? I'm not a tire expert, but this to me looks like normal wear, but WAY more than I'd expect at 12k miles. This is worse than my 911 was at that time. This car doesn't have an engineering excuse like a 911 does, it shares its underpinnings with a Honda Civic. So a couple pictures from one dude on a forum isn't really helpful in setting expectations that I should set aside $2k every year for new tires and brakes. (that said I'm switching to 200 TW tires next year and use all-seasons half the year so this whole conversation is probably moot but I'm still curious)
TL;DR- How often, how long, what kind of sustained pace, and what public roads are you driving on that lead to this? And obviously disclose any suspension mods.
Relative to this, I guess I'm not that hard on tires. Outside of the autocross and the one track day, I admit I don't go on the type of balls-to-the-wall mountain or canyon blasts that apparently some people do. At least not like this... the OUTSIDE shoulders of my tires are all sorts of fucked, but last time I checked the tread depth was fine. I'll take pictures and measurements when I get the summers off, hopefully this weekend.
Unless something has changed dramatically in the past few years, I am still firmly in the camp that no one should reasonably expect to blow through tires and brakes in the first 15k miles unless there are extenuating circumstances. I am curious to find out exactly what those circumstances have to be to see results like this picture. Brake vectoring shouldn't be this substantial unless there's a reason for it... and what I'm most curious about is just how intrusive the brake vectoring is during mostly street driving.
But anecdotally, the main reason for my pushback here is the last car I did have for longer than a year on the OEM tires was an F82 M4, on Pilot Super Sports. As we all know, those tires were superseded by the PS4S, and they lasted me over 30k miles- but I admit the only spirited driving that car ever saw was half of a track day. Brakes were replaced after that track day because the factory steel brakes on the F82 were trash and the pad material did not stand up to even my novice track driving... but they were replaced under warranty and still had plenty of pad left.
You guys really must be pushing the car Transporter-style to go through wear items like this.
Do you have to say it like that?!FWD will always be the weakest link.
This explains everything. Lucky ba$tard. So many great roads in that region.TL;DR- How often, how long, what kind of sustained pace, and what public roads are you driving on that lead to this? And obviously disclose any suspension mods.
I live 40 minutes from the tail of the dragon and go up at least every other week in the warm, less in winter.
this was Sunday cruising. But I also got rear ended up there a few weeks ago lolThis explains everything. Lucky ba$tard. So many great roads in that region.
It really does. Extenuating circumstances identifieThis explains everything. Lucky ba$tard. So many great roads in that region.
I tried to tell you bro. @Car00071 lives in the midwest though so that's a mystery.It really does. Extenuating circumstances identifie
The tail is what, 11 miles of some of the best twisties in the land? Doing that at a decent pace- probably not breaking any laws, substantially- every other week and yeah it all makes sense. And honestly, probably far worse than 1-2 track days.
There is probably some scientific explanation for why autocross is better or worse on tires. Yes, it is acute damage done by taking tires to their extreme limit, but the speeds are relatively low and it’s only ~1 minute at a time. 15-20 minutes of honing on the tail is probably way worse, undoubtedly on brakes.
I too am jealous, that road looks like amazing fun. I keep telling myself I’ll get out there someday but it’s about a 6-8 hour drive last I checked.
But finally no, I don’t think an Integra, even a Type S, has the same types of built-in compromises that a 911 would have. But yes, it’s a performance car and especially if it’s being used appropriately you’re going to be throwing money at wear items in perpetuity.